[Why Not]

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This post has been edited by Why Not: 02 April 2008 - 06:26 PM

[thatboyaintright]

And that money is spent. The team even has to pay for the refs & the school buses. The acct will be near zero at year end. There is no large sum in the soccer budget. In fact, there is no "bank account" either.

No varsity team should have less than 18 on the roster, preferably 19-22, with some of those playing JV on most nights.

But that's just me & my experience when I coached high school soccer.

The school budget is open for inspection. Call 'em & request a gander.

[Why Not]

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This post has been edited by Why Not: 02 April 2008 - 06:27 PM

[thatboyaintright]

I don't doubt the money is spent, and I know the teams have to pay for ref, buses ... and I don't want to imply or suggest any mishandling of funds, I don't think that is the case. I guess my thought on the money thing is "lets have as many players as possible to raise as much money as possible" even though they all won't play. I know this is school ball not rec and the goal is to win, but in a blow out game why not let all the players play?

I know you didn't mean to imply that. (Just throwing that out there 'cause many folks -do- misread or assign motive for the least little thing. )

Any who . . .

Don't know anything about playing time so I can't say anything about that.

I saw in another thread that EPHS Lady Raiders beat Sequoyah. That's a huge win. Congrats.

[EPH Dad]

I don't think the coach would have picked them for varsity if he didn't feel they were of value. There are ten seniors leaving at the end of the year and the remaining girls are going to fill those slots. Even though my daughter is one of the lucky 13, I would not mind if she was pulled out of a game to let other players have some time on the field. I hope they don't get dissapointed about the playing time this year, we are going to need them in the future.

[Why Not]

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This post has been edited by Why Not: 02 April 2008 - 06:29 PM

[laughin out loud]

The coach needs players for the future but he has to make sure the "top" players have the stamina and endurance that they may need for the playoffs.

[Why Not]

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This post has been edited by Why Not: 02 April 2008 - 06:29 PM

[Bellingrath]

He's probably doing what just about every other high school coach does: the younger players sit the bench for most of the game. The more senior players play.

As far as Coach Cartee fluffing his roster just to get more money, I think you're WAY off base there.

[smy34]

First of all....this is not recreation soccer....that would be up to the parent whether or not they want to play on a rotation or maybe even on a winning program. 2nd. Fees....no county money paid for your child to play or sit the bench......no one should be denied playing on team for any fees, regardless of high school. I am sure that some fundraising has to be done. A sport, band, ROTC, or anything related to after school, is nuturing. Now, if the parent cant handle not playing, then either parent does not attend game, or goes and support team....or, pulls young person from team.....there is no better place to learn life's lessons than in activities. Most colleges look at participation, not the scoring of goals........

[Bama Fan14]

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't your $200 player fee pay for shirts, warmups, backpacks, new soccer balls, referees, bus fare, and food?

As far Coach playing the same set of girls with a score of 10-0, if there is a tie in the region, the tie-breaker is determined by goals scored. (This is the way I understand it per GHSA.)

Coach cares about his players. He only wants to see them succeed on the pitch. While I understand your frustration with your child not seeing enough playing time, Coach has to look at the big picture. There's a reason for everything he does.

If you don't like the way he's coaching, then ask him face-to-face. Don't question his motives on a message board like this.

[smy34]

I am sure TBAR just lined his pockets when he coached????? He made millions....not to mention the BIG supplement he made.....

[Bellingrath]

I am sure TBAR just lined his pockets when he coached????? He made millions....not to mention the BIG supplement he made.....

You know he did!

[swtmaggy]

My daughter is a senior this year and has been a 4 year starter for EPHS Soccer. The t-shirts alone she got this season would have come close to costing me the $200 I spent. Also prior to the season in the fall you are given the opportunity to work the Georgia Tech football games which give you a large discount on your fees. I have found in my experience with Cartee his heart is bigger than his bench. I know he advises these girls they probably won't see much field time in tight situations. I am pretty sure all players were talked to before taking the varsity uniform and are made to feel part of the team

[smy34]

thank-you for shedding some light on the opportunity to fund raise....probably the young person forgot to inform her parents....I am glad some parents understand that a team is made up of players that play to win...and others in support. Everybody did not play for Tennesse Lady Vols last night...some had to sit the bench....but hey they are getting an education. We still need to check on TBAR and see what he has left over from his coaching days at PCHS...

[Bellingrath]

I wonder why the OP deleted his statements. Hmmm...makes me wonder.

[Ball]

I wonder why the OP deleted his statements. Hmmm...makes me wonder.

Because someone came on here with an agenda and got called out. The best players play if you dont like it then go talk to the coach about it, you dont come on a message board and start crap. Coach Cartee is a very good man, for this poster to question the money spending is ridiculous, soccer makes absolutely no money for the programs or schools, therefore they have to raise money or donate.

[Mrs. Avalon]

Because someone came on here with an agenda and got called out. The best players play if you dont like it then go talk to the coach about it, you dont come on a message board and start crap. Coach Cartee is a very good man, for this poster to question the money spending is ridiculous, soccer makes absolutely no money for the programs or schools, therefore they have to raise money or donate.

That's a riot that the original post was deleted! It definitely read like an agenda. My son plays soccer in another county on a high school varsity team. They dress out a bunch of kids and the bench is very deep. It's a young school/program and the coach is trying to build depth for years to come. For someone to come on here and slam EPHS's coach for doing what sounds like the same thing is ridiculous! Soccer doesn't have deep pockets - they have to fundraise at every school just like all sports do. The money isn't for playing time like in rec soccer or league soccer. This is high school - the best play based on the opponent a team is facing. It's time to grow up for some people. Good luck to EPHS girls! And good luck to the Varsity boys as they face Alexander tonight.

[thatboyaintright]

I am sure TBAR just lined his pockets when he coached????? He made millions....not to mention the BIG supplement he made.....

Millions? For the amount I was paid, it came out to like 25 cents an hour. Coaching (other than football) means little, if any money. It is for the love of the game & the kids.

Of course, this thread has made me think. Anyone notice how terrible the EPHS soccer field looks this year? No grass. None. It is a dirt field. Lots of sand. Awful condition & dangerous for soccer players. Never has it looked this bad.

If you've got an pull with the county at all, tell 'em those soccer coaches need some respect from the Central Office, school admin, & especially the football coaches at some schools.

[soccermom]

Fields are sad

It looks bad that the team in 1st place (Yeah!) in the area has to play on such a bad
field.

(Alexander beat Chapel Hill last night so we are 1st in 5AAAA)

[Mrs. Avalon]

Fields are sad

It looks bad that the team in 1st place (Yeah!) in the area has to play on such a bad
field.

(Alexander beat Chapel Hill last night so we are 1st in 5AAAA)

Please, please, East Paulding Boys beat Alexander tonight! It will give Alexander 3 region losses and put my boy's team as #1 over Cherokee. I've promised to wear Pirates shirts for the week if they pull it off. Alexander is tough though! They play a Brazilian Box style set up with 5 mid-fielders. #10, one of their strikers is amazing - fast and accurate. Watch out for him! Their #8 is good too. Go get em EPHS!

[EPH Dad]

Fields are sad

It looks bad that the team in 1st place (Yeah!) in the area has to play on such a bad
field.

(Alexander beat Chapel Hill last night so we are 1st in 5AAAA)

I remember one time when my daughter’s club team made it to the championships at some out of state tournament. The girls were all dressed in their clean, bright red and white Adidas uniforms looking good. That day they could do no wrong! Along comes the opposing team from Tennessee, faded out tee shirts, I don’t even think their shorts matched. They looked like tiny little kids compared to ours. Well, they kick our butts and went home with the trophy. All the parents shook hands, congratulated the other side, and challenged each other to a rematch. From that day on I realized that it’s not the uniforms or the field you play on, it’s what you bring to the game. GO Raiders

This post has been edited by EPH Dad: 03 April 2008 - 10:37 AM

[The Sound Guy]

Fields are sad

It looks bad that the team in 1st place (Yeah!) in the area has to play on such a bad
field.

(Alexander beat Chapel Hill last night so we are 1st in 5AAAA)

PCHS's field is not in quite as bad of shape as TBAR described East's field, but it is missing quite a bit of grass. Playing when wet like we had to do early in the season, really messed it up.

Just had to mention that PCHS (4-0-0) is in first place also in 4AAAAA. Weather permitting, they play the 2nd place team (East Coweta 4-1-0) tomorrow night. It will be a tough game.

SG

[soccermom]

Good Luck Patriots!

[Bellingrath]

Good luck to PCHS also!